Here's the beginning of my shangwoo fic!!
Here's the beginning of my shangwoo fic!!
“These things really ruin the mood. No wait time to use as an excuse to get busy." “I do not really want coffee,” Shang-chi said, drawing closer. “Yeah, neither did I.”
I mean, the very fact that it's an unpopular opinion that Jane Foster isn't even that likable and a lot of people aren't very excited to see her become female Thor in Thor: Love and Thunder is indicative of a larger trend in MCU fandom that I find necessary to discuss.
Jane Foster and her intern Darcy Lewis are very much examples of, well, white female characters that fit into tropes. We've seen a lot of white female characters like Jane before - there's nothing very new or interesting about her. Same with Darcy - she's the quirky intern who's not really interested in the science, isn't even in the same field, and is mostly there for, apparently, comedic relief, especially when she takes on an intern of her own who is genuinely interested in astrophysics and is found by Jane making out with him. She's not really an objectionable character per se, she just does not have that much of a role in the larger story, so her absence in Thor: Ragnarok is barely even noticeable, much like the absence of her boss (Jane is mentioned, but we could've done without that because she literally has zero role to play in the movie). The point is, both these characters are very trope-y and their absence isn't exactly missed, and with Darcy having shown up in WandaVision and with Jane set to appear in Thor: Love and Thunder, it's almost impossible to ignore the fact that they're pulling attention from the two Black women who as it is should've been protagonists of the show and the movie but weren't given that chance.
Monica Rambeau should've been the protagonist of WandaVision. But, like Captain Marvel which should've been Monica's origin story but gave Carol the spotlight in a way that erased Frank Rambeau, replacing him with Carol, and made Maria and Monica supporting characters to Carol, WandaVision centered the Nazi instead of the woman who should've been given the arc of taking said Nazi down - making sure she wouldn't be the protagonist in the show either, after the movie had already disallowed her from being the protagonist. On top of that, Darcy appears with a PhD in astrophysics (which is farcical given her lack of interest in the subject in the Thor movies) and then, well, this happened.
Monica and Agent Jimmy Woo - two characters of color - are the two most important characters of color in WandaVision, and if there was any justice in the world Jimmy would've been a lead character alongside Monica as the protagonist. That said, Monica and Jimmy fans had to deal with something else on top of that - Darcy stans filling their tags with Darcy ship imagines and Darcy-centric content. It's also not like this is the first time that's happened - apparently, Darcy stans have been doing this thing for a while where they give their fave, who is a very tangentially important side character at best in the Thor franchise, more importance in the fandom by making ship imagines of her with literally everyone. With other white characters, it's, well, annoying but also kind of whatever - but when Darcy stans start filling up the tags for characters of color with Darcy ship imagines and the like when there's next to no basis for those ships in canon, that obviously means fans of Monica and Jimmy won't like the character or her stans.
Jane Foster and Darcy Lewis are very much white feminist stereotypes, and centering them speaks to this tendency of white fandom to consume media even when it's feeding them tropes by making those trope-y characters their comfort characters and making little boxes that they can keep characters and storylines in, and squirreling away anything that doesn't fit into those tropes into some other neat little box. They often don't critically engage with media, preferring to have comfort characters and make vapid fanfiction and other content. And it might not seem objectionable, but when it comes to racism, sexism, queerphobia, and other real-world issues, this tendency of white fandom becomes very problematic. Fans of color often don't have the luxury of engaging with media like this, and are often forced to critically engage with media even when they just wish to enjoy it without worrying about problematic aspects. So when Jane stans and Jane/Thor shippers come out of the woodwork for Thor: Love and Thunder, fans of color aren't unjustified in feeling like this de-centers Valkyrie in a movie that should really have been her movie as it is. And when Darcy stans fill every other character's tag with ship imagines and other Darcy-centric content, for fans of color who want to see content centering their favorite characters of color, it goes one step beyond annoying and becomes problematic, because characters of color are already mistreated by the MCU and its fans, and when Darcy ship imagines and Darcy-centric content start filling the tags for Monica and Jimmy, two characters of color who should really have been given their own projects but weren't, it pretty much sucks. Jane was essentially replaced by Valkyrie, who is in all respects a better and more interesting character, and Darcy was inserted into a piece of media where they could've brought in a new, fun character instead to be the third member of any trio with Monica and Jimmy (paralleling fandom where Darcy becomes the self-insert for many Darcy stans and their ship imagines etc). White fandom is making it necessary for fans of color to critically engage with media when most fans of color just wanted to enjoy it without having to critically engage with it.
Another wonderful thing about WandaVison was that Darcy, Jimmy, and Monica had all met "super-powered individuals" before which made them immediately relate to Wanda, Vision, and the boys as people in contrast to Hayward who saw them as others to be suspicious of and scornful toward.
Maybe the closest thing we get to the mutant treatment we get so far in the MCU.
Marvel Boy: The Uranian (2010) #3
History of the Marvel Universe (2019) #2
I just thought he was a talking dragon this whole time...
jimmy woo types google.com into google
Had some thoughts about after shang-chi and jimmy meet for the second time shang-chi ends up breaking his leg somehow and so jimmy takes him back to atlas headquarters and takes care of him until he heals
From Marvel’s Voices: Identity Vol. 2 #001, “Secrets”
Art by Creees Lee and Bryan Valenza
Written by Pornsak Pichetshote
Shangwoo au where shang-chi is on the FBI watchlist and jimmy is the agent in charge of keeping an eye on him
in case yall were wondering what ive been up to ive been losing my mind about marvel giving me a real comic where shang-chi and jimmy woo fought topless and then had a heart to heart conversation that ended with them coming to terms with their differences and strengthening their past relationship
#8, 9, 19, 26, 37, and 38 for the MCU asks?
8. Overhated/Underrated character - Prior to WandaVision, this would've been a super easy answer for me because I've liked Darcy for significantly longer than she was cool. Now, though, I feel like she gets a good bit of love. So...Clint? I hoped getting his own series would've made him more popular but it seems like he's still treated second-rate as far as the main Avengers crew goes. :(
9. Favorite fight scene - I have a confession to make...I don't like fight scenes. Generally speaking, I hate the MCU's tendency to end every movie in an over-the-top psychedelic CGI fistfight. So my favorites tend to be the quieter ones, the ones that offer a bit of character development along with the blood and smashing. So the fight scenes that aren’t so much fight scenes as important character beats where people happen to throw a few punches are the ones I like most. The first examples that come to my mind are Clint vs Natasha in Endgame and Clint vs Yelena in the Hawkeye finale.
19. Characters you wish would interact more - Okay so they haven't interacted at all yet, but I am absolutely desperate for Kate Bishop and Peter Parker to meet. They're presumably both vigilante heroes in NY now, and it feels like there's a lot of potential for goofy mayhem. As far as characters we’ve already seen together - I need more Darcy, Jimmy, and Monica.
26. A random headcanon for a character of your choice - After No Way Home and until he reunites with Ned, Peter can't watch Star Wars. It's too painful.
37. A future project you're the most excited for - Tbh, Black Widow, No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness were my most anticipated Phase 4 movies, and Hawkeye my most anticipated show, and now that they're all over I'm kind of meh on the announced future projects. That being said, I'm looking forward to Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantomania - if the release date holds, I’ll have to wait a week or so but I’ll get to see it over Spring Break, hopefully with friends! And I’m sure I’ll hype myself up for other things as we get more info. I’m really curious to see where certain characters are going to show up next. :)
38. Favorite and least favorite villain - I thought about this for two days and couldn’t come up with a decent answer. But all that thinking did inspire a post I’ll get around to making in the next day or two. :)
Thanks for the asks! Sorry they weren’t answered sooner but it’s been a beast of a week.
Shoutout to this person that thinks that jimmy and shang-chi met on grindr
Marvel how did they meet? Tell us!!
If you think about it Jimmy was probably convinced he was being Amadeus's yellow claw, like training him to be a hero and leader so in his head he wasn't doing anything wrong, but amadeus already had his yellow claw in athena like she manipulated him to be her new prince of power at the cost of his parents and his best friend so like his experiences were way more negative/traumatic than Jimmy's experiences
Here's my shangwoo fic!
do you think jimmy woo and shang-chi have explored each others bodies
I got shangwoo brainrot
Based on this post
Lin Lie: How come Jimmy Woo calls you babygirl?
Shang-chi: How about we stop talking for a little while