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  • zhenyajey
    18.05.2022 - 7 minutes ago


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  • fizzingwizard
    18.05.2022 - 1 hour ago

    So I finished watching MV season 3 at last and I have lots of Thoughts. In sum, I think the season is disjointed and poorly paced, but still overall feels like Moominvalley. I don't love it, but I like it well enough. But I'll talk about it another time.

    However, I couldn't resist going off about episode 10, the fairground episode, because this episode boggles my mind.

    (spoilers obvs)

    We have only two episodes this season where Snufkin plays a significant role, and in both, his character flaws are 1) that he doesn't show his friends he values them enough, and 2) that he is conflict-avoidant. So far so good. But in this episode in particular, those traits are punished heavily - and I can't follow the logic.

    The first issue in the episode is that Snufkin accepts the responsibility of the fairground with committing to it. But I am struggling with that because it seems to me that he is clear from the start that he doesn't want to do this, and is doing it to make other people happy. While the Hemulen deciding he doesn't want to make other people happy anymore is fine, Snufkin deciding the same is not...

    The second issue in the episode is the importance of doing things by your own choice. The Hemulen argues that he never had a choice before, and now that he has, he understands that he really was happy working at the fair. Okay whatever fine. I'm really unclear on what Snufkin was meant to learn here. He already knew he didn't want to work at a fair ground. AND he knew that it takes a lot to make other people happy. Everyone else sets expectations of him despite him initially turning down as much responsibility as he can. So, what should he have done? Said no more clearly? I'm pretty sure that would still have caused the same problems, so was there nothing Snufkin could do here which would have avoided hurting others and let him be happy? Address that!

    Then, in the end, after all that work, the result is... a return to the status quo. It's a remix of the Park-keeper episode, only much weaker. I'm really, really unclear on what the point of all this was. It's a lot a lot of work just so Snufkin can get yelled at and the Hemulen can decide he doesn't want "life alone" after all. (Did he ever actually say that's what he wants? I think he only said he didn't like all the noise and pressure)

    I did appreciate that they slowed the rides down because that said "Let's make this less stress and more enjoyment for you." I think THAT'S probably what we "learned" in this episode: Snufkin did come in prejudging the Hemulen, and maybe would have seen what the Hemulen really wanted if he hadn't gotten it stuck in in his head that the Hemulen was an authority figure. HOWEVER, if that's an important part of this episode, it is utterly, utterly lost in the confusion. Lots of things get overexplained, but the one thing that needs explaining is barely touched on. That would have shown actual character development for Snufkin - learning more to listen to people's hearts, I guess. But they really didn't do much to suggest that - I'm desperately reaching for an angle where the outcome here makes sense.

    Below is just lots of rambling more about the above...

    The episode seems to be a combination of "The Hemulen That Loved Silence" from Tales and perhaps a bit the railroad comic where Moomintroll and Snufkin trick railroad workers into building a roller coaster instead. It's more the first especially in terms of message. The problem in "Silence" is that the Hemulen has always done what other people tell him and thinks his bad mood is because he doesn't like people, but finds that it's actually because he isn't able to say no. When he moves out and starts doing things by choice, he likes himself and other people much better. It seems to me that in the episode, Hemulen and Snufkin jointly inhabit this role... which is a bit weird to me, but ok - MV19 Snufkin does seem to have a recurring issue of not being able to talk about his feelings, so maybe that's part of it? (But this makes no sense to me, because Snufkin is able to say what he wants and doesn't want clearly... but more on that later)

    For the Hemulen, he says flat out that he thought he wanted to leave the fairground for peace and quiet "because I never had anything to compare it to before." But he needs Snufkin's suggestion to actually do leave (and all Snufkin does is suggest! And Hemulen is really happy when he does! And allegedly wouldn't have learned how much he really likes this job if he hadn't left!). AND he needs Snufkin's suggestion to come back! He's uh, very suggestible, isn't he! XD Well, that's fine...

    ... Except that even though the Hemulen isn't held responsible for his own decisions, Snufkin very much is. Snufkin says he doesn't want the responsibility. He says he doesn't want to be in charge. Even though he doesn't straight out say "no," it doesn't seem to me that he's been vague - and I could accept that my POV versus TV POV is different here, except that Moomintroll seems very aware of how Snufkin feels when he says, "I don't think you've got much choice." Like, it really doesn't seem like a mystery to anyone that Snufkin doesn't want to be here and is only doing this at the insistence of his friends.

    That being said - it's still Snufkin's decision. He could say no way and just leave. And here lies one big problem: MV19 Snufkin's character arc involves learning how to make sure the people you love who love you still feel valued and appreciated. That is is a legit, valid issue for a character who tends to being a loner. But in this episode, I have a very difficult time seeing what happens as anything other than punishment for being a loner at all. Snufkin tries to avoid the responsibility of the fairground, but realizes the social consequences of leaving would be disappointing a lot of friends. The result is that people start to put expectations on them, and at first he thinks they're manageable ("With a little help"). But then there's more - "you're not doing enough. You're in charge. You've made this your job! Fix our problems.") And each time, being a being of free will, he could say no... but if he does, that will cause aforementioned social consequences and they will be worse because of how much expectations have increased. So he sticks it out.

    Finally he can't take it anymore. This is not where he belongs. The episode itself ACCEPTS that, which is why the Hemulen gets his job back and Snufkin frames it as "I'm not cut out for this." There is never any doubt that Snufkin should NOT be here, and yet even though Snufkin was honest about that in the beginning, everyone holds him responsible for their own expectations. So, we've got the Hemulen, unable to make any decisions without someone holding his hand and that's fine - and then we've got Snufkin, who's going against his nature to try to make others happy, becomes miserable, and is called "selfish" for trying to change things. He made these decisions, but he's also the only one held accountable for anything. Like, even the problems at the fairground which he should take care of as the one in "charge" are caused by the friends supposed to be helping him. Why can't Snorkmaiden and Sniff decide about the fortune telling themselves? Why does there need to be a fortune teller at all? Why can't Little My and Moomintroll figure out the roller coaster? Why does the roller coaster need anyone operating it when the Hemulen appears to have managed everything without any help?

    Moomintroll's understandably upset when Snufkin tries to sneak away and sees it as bailing on his friends. So is the takeaway that if Snufkin had just left the park in the first place, Moomintroll wouldn't have thought that was selfish? I, uh, don't think so... As I said earlier, the social consequences were there from the start, and have only increased with time. Even though Snufkin never asked for them. Snufkin was wrong to try to leave without a word. I liked it because it's very in character for this series: he left without a word at the part in season 1, he left without a word in Lonely Mountain... But I'm also confused by it because it seems that MV19 Snufkin is very conflict-avoidant, and yet also clearly says what he wants - he just doesn't get listened to. Like, in Lonely Mountain, he says "You're welcome to stay" and Moomintroll takes him at his word. But before that, Moomintroll didn't take him at his word when he said he wanted to be alone. So why is Snufkin listened to when he says what Moomintroll wants to hear, and not when he doesn't? Then it gets treated as though Snufkin was never clear and just runs away from his problems. Which, indeed, he does! ... After not getting listened to xD Like I'm just confused. Does Moomintroll know Snufkin at all, or doesn't he?

    Snufkin needs to apologize - ok. Snufkin needs to thank his friends - yes. Meanwhile, it's totally fine that everyone just kept increasing expectations on him without his consent? I feel like we're supposed to be annoyed that Snufkin "left" being in charge to Moomintroll... um, but Moomintroll seemed very much like he wanted to do it. If Snufkin supposed to say "I don't want to do this, you be in charge" plainly, would that have made a difference? Would the episode then have ended with Moomintroll wanted to escape the responsibility and get back to his normal Moomin life, and Snufkin saying "I'm sorry I'm so selfish and put you the responsibility on your shoulders"? XD

    The three things I DID appreciate in this epsiode are 1) Toffle, who was golden - thinking about the Hemulen, being kind to him, and later their adorable sabotaging of the park. Toffle was great. And 2) Moomintroll wanting an apology from Snufkin - and not getting one, but getting "Thank you" instead. Bc the thanks were absolutely warranted... but IMO not the sorry. Ok, sorry for bailing - yes xD But sorry for not wanting the things Moomintroll decided he should want... which is how it feels to me... no. And 3) Snufkin saying "Making people happy is a big responsibility," just because I liked it and thought it suited him and is the ONLY TRUE THING in the episode. Again, those social consequences!! Snufkin is trying to be more social, he's stretching himself, but it's not recognized at all because it's still not at the same level as his more extroverted friends. He recognizes the responsibility, but because he doesn't feel ready to accept it, he's punished. Like.

    Also, random! But - if Snufkin were going to run a fairground, why would he still use tickets?? XD Like it seems to me that would be the first thing to go! Actually I thought it was just Sniff who was using them, but nope, Snufkin does too. Lol

    So I've written a lot, but that doesn't mean I hated the episode - I'm just a very, very long-winded person and like to get things off my chest that other people are able to say much more succinctly. So if anyone read to the end, please don't imagine I'm a grouch lol. I'm just trying to organize my thoughts (and it still looks like chaos anyway xP). It's possible y'all had a very different take on this episode and the more I rewatch season 3 maybe I will come to different conclusions.

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  • beemschurmhe
    18.05.2022 - 2 hours ago

    i watched the movie

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  • snufcant
    18.05.2022 - 2 hours ago

    hello the closeface animatic is out now :D

    something came up regarding academics so i couldn't finish the last few seconds in a day but here it is finally

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  • existential-pepsicola
    18.05.2022 - 2 hours ago

    i did this instead of sleeping i hope y’all enjoy this man getting his oranges 🍊🍊🍊🕊

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  • gendersnatcha
    18.05.2022 - 3 hours ago

    I redownloaded tumblr for one thing and one thing only.

    The gays of the moomins fandom. I will not sleep until I have followed every. Single. One of you. I love it here

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  • smokeys-house
    18.05.2022 - 3 hours ago

    Coworkers have started a group doodle at register 3

    #smokey talks #u can guess which one is mine #moomins#moomin oc#puukko
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  • doodlefoxart
    18.05.2022 - 3 hours ago

    Been a hot second since i last posted so prepare for art spam lol, my personal interpretation of moomin!

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  • bugs1nbr41n
    18.05.2022 - 4 hours ago

    POV: you eated soap, but you didn’t because you’re gay.

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  • idle-iberus
    18.05.2022 - 5 hours ago

    Chapter 01 - Venture into what the heart wants

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  • lexaussy
    18.05.2022 - 5 hours ago

    MAN I LOVE THIS ONE i just wish i could color it

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  • talbas
    18.05.2022 - 6 hours ago


    #2022??? #caps #THE MOOMIN BLOG NO LESS...
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  • flowerbloom-arts
    17.05.2022 - 7 hours ago

    I feel like there's always something (or someone) missing in every other redraw of this panel, so I'm here to compensate.


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  • lazylikejoxter
    17.05.2022 - 8 hours ago

    *Snufkin’s free time*

    Moomintroll: It’s for me...?

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  • crazxzz
    17.05.2022 - 8 hours ago

    Lil small man 🍓 I love this small dude.

    Design from @awakenthebeing

    #snufkin#moomins#doodle #I messed up the canvas size :') #drawn in a school day which is impressive
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  • iocity
    17.05.2022 - 8 hours ago

    Joxter and Mymble need to start accepting applications from third party companies (me) for romance purposes.


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  • sweet-honey-blue
    17.05.2022 - 9 hours ago

    i just wanted to thank you all for the love that my blog has been receiving recently! the moomins are so important to me, and i’m so glad that my blog has given joy to more moomin fans out there! wishing you all the best always!

    #leerae.txt #moomin#the moomins#muumin #thank you!!
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  • artichow
    17.05.2022 - 9 hours ago

    i tried watching 1 episode of moominvalley

    what’s up with the moomins and their mouths on the side of their head?

    #it's placed very weirdly? #but other than that it's cute and peaceful! I might watch everything after all #also I started with season 3 ep 1 idk why #moominvalley#arti talks #and moominpappa and moominmamma are the cutest in every versions of the moomins
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