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  • bestfriend-temporary
    24.05.2022 - 22 minutes ago

    i’m sorry if somebody’s already said this, but…

    if hunter doesn’t know what a pancake/flapjack is, does that mean they don’t exist in the boiling isles? and if so… how did flapjack get his name?

    are you picking up what i’m putting down here??

    #toh #the owl house #flapjack toh #flapjack the owl house #hunter toh#toh speculation#toh spoilers #kinda? #the boiling isles #gonna be real i’m not 100 percent sure what this means either
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  • snackleggg
    24.05.2022 - 8 hours ago

    Thinking about what Kiki said about how Belos' eyes are "all pointed at the owl lady". Yes, he may have eyes everywhere but currently they're all paying attention to Eda.

    Belos probably also knows about the little multi track rebellion happening at hexside since the scouts would've reported back about it but I think he really isn't paying attention to that.

    We don't really have any information about what the Hexside students & teachers are doing and I think that was intentional.

    All of Belos' attention is on Eda, which means he has completely disregarded a separate part of the rebellion.

    Kikimora only taunts Luz with knowing their plan, not any of the other kids so I think it's a safe bet that Hexside has kind of been pushed to the backburner, a group of ex-coven heads and the owl lady seeming more urgent to deal with than a group of children and sigiled teachers.

    But even Darius pointed out at the start of the episode that the spell only targets those with sigils, something we know none of the Hexside students have.

    In conclusion, I think that after the CATTs plan has been revealed to be a failure and everything is looking down, Hexside's gonna appear like "SUPRISE BITCH"

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  • icedmochasi
    24.05.2022 - 10 hours ago

    Darius and Odalia were probably really good friends on their own at some point. Or at least, the friendship and closeness were genuine on Darius’s end. And then something happened between her and him that caused him to break away from her and Alador, for good. 

    Whatever happened between Darius and Odalia contributes to him being emotionally closed off to most people to this day. 

    #toh#toh spoilers #the owl house #toh darius#darius toh#odalia blight#alador blight #idk speculation? #tagging just in case
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  • theparadoxspace
    24.05.2022 - 13 hours ago

    im guessing that since luz's palisman is an egg, its probably gonna be an egg but i really do hope those expectations are subverted

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  • selenestarmoon
    24.05.2022 - 14 hours ago

    I don't know what could be more terrifying, that Belos is angry because Kikimora brought Luz to him by mistake or that Belos is happy because Kikimora brought Luz to him by mistake?

    #the owl house #the owl house speculation #toh#toh speculation #the owl house spoilers #toh spoilers#emperor belos#phillip wittebane#kikimora#luz noceda
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  • bmblboop
    23.05.2022 - 23 hours ago

    Voice-changing spells are probably classified as Bard Magic, right?

    Maybe Raine could circumvent the “illusion doesn’t cover your voice” issue when they go undercover and give us a really good twist

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  • tomtonktonic
    23.05.2022 - 23 hours ago

    Somethings not right about Steve.

    (Spoilers for Clouds over the Horizon below)

    Okay adding onto the 'That's not our Steve' conversation. We hear Steve talk in Clouds on the horizon.

    And this is his voice. However I, like many of you, feel off about the way he talks here. He's not as laid back or as chill as he usually is. Given, this is the day of unity we're dealing with (aka the genocide of all witches). But still, he just feels off.

    In this same episode we also learn that while Witches can cloak themselves under the illusion of another witch, it can't change their voice, and as previously established, this is Steve's voice.

    So does that mean this is still our Steve?

    Well, before we can give that question a definitive answer I'd like to point our attention to another character.


    Vee, rather than disguisesing herself with illusions, is able to physically transform into other characters. Before the events of Yesterday's lie she copied Luz's so flawlessly that even Luz's own mother didn't suspect a thing( If Luz hadn't let Camilla in on what was happening I Vee probably could've continued to live on as Luz without anyone noticing either).

    Another interesting aspect of Vee's abilities is that she can change her voice to match whatever form she's taken. This is also backed up by her wiki that shows she uses the same voice actor as Luz.

    So, what am I saying with all this? Is best girl Vee somehow in the demon realm parading as Steve for some unknown reason?

    Of course not-

    What I am saying is that someone like Vee, a basilisk, is fully capable of taking over someone's identity without anyone around them knowing, fooling even close friends and relatives.

    I theorize that a basilisk has infiltrated the CATT resistance, replaced Steve, and is feeding the emperors coven information on the rebellion.

    Afterall, out of the five basilisk that were revived, only four have been seen onscreen.

    #The Owl House #toh spoilers#toh speculation#Theory#crack theory#Steve#Basilisk#Vee #Honestly I feel like this theory is a bit weak here and there #but it was just too good of a thought not to type up #and hey#who knows #maybe adrian might be the basilisk posed as Steve #its likely hes on thin ice for losing to a bunch of teenagers #so whats a better way of getting back onto the Emperor's good side than to be directly giving him info on the rebellion #adrian graye #Adrian Graye Vernworth #Youtube
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  • jellyfishinajamjar
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    At least one of the CATS is a mole for the Emperor’s Coven

    Unless Darius has been taking Penstagram selfies with his location on, I think it’s safe to say that someone has been leaking their plans. Lines like “The Emperor has eyes everywhere” are intimidating and all, but kinda brushes over that fact that at least one of those eyes had to have been physically in the room when they made their plan for the DoU. Excluding some answer we haven’t seen yet, like scrying spying or a wiretap, it’s safe to assume someone in the room leaked their plans, and has been for some time now.

    So who is it? Well, let’s knock off who it isn’t first. It’s not any of the Hexside crew or anyone from the Owl House, they either weren’t in the planning room or are main characters who we know aren’t on talking terms with Belos. For that reason, we can get rid of Hunter, Luz, Amity, Willow, Gus, King, Hooty, Eda, and Lilith.

    Given the old BATS crew’s enthusiasm I think it’s safe to exclude them for now, but there’s really no evidence one way or the other.

    Darius and Eber are probably safe given how far they’re sticking their necks out for the CATS. Darius has a track record of minor treason and Eber seems to want to cause chaos, so I don’t think it’s them.

    That leaves only two possible culprits. Steve, or Raine. And I don’t think it’s Steve.

    Steve just had a big character moment in O Titan, Where Art Thou, and given that Hexside is in open rebellion I don’t think threatening his brother would be credible, so he has no reason to help the Emperor. Plus, him going turncoat two episodes after he had a big moment with King would kind of undercut that scene.

    So that leaves Raine. And as much as I hate it, too much lines up for it to be coincidence. Raine was acting very suspiciously in the planning scene. They suggested the plan to brand Eda with a sigil. They planned for Eda to take their place in the ritual, conveniently leaving out the detail of where they would be when it goes down. But to me the biggest piece of evidence is what the Emperor’s Coven seems to know, or rather doesn’t know.

    They know about the plan to slip Eda into the spell, but not the plan to rescue Amity from the Blight’s abomitron factory. That would have been an excellent place to ambush Luz and Hunter, especially with all of the ambomitrons and the already present coven scouts. But they seemed caught off guard, even though Kikimora, who’s apparently been demoted to the lowest possible position, already knows about the plan at the titan’s head. If she knows about that but didn’t prepare for Luz at the factory, then the emperor’s spy probably didn’t know about it either.

    You know who did know? Exactly 7 people. Luz, Eda, and King on the balcony where Luz and Eda talked about her going to save Amity, Darius, who I assume Eda told, and Hunter, Gus, and Willow, who Darius told. Given that none of them spilled the beans, none of them are spying. You know who the scene explicitly tells the audience wasn’t on the balcony? Raine. They don’t walk in on that scene until after that conversation happens. And the real guy punch? Luz makes them promise to keep Eda safe. That’s the sort of line you write when the next episode you want to write the words “You promised to keep her safe!”

    There’s really only one problem with this theory. It sucks.

    Obviously it can’t be Raine, for multiple reasons. Raine would never knowingly indanger Eda, or help Belos, and as far as the Emperor’s Coven is concerned they’re still drinking Terra’s tea, so unless that cover was blown they’re still in the clear. As far as we know the Emperor doesn’t know about the extent of CATS, (though I’m sure he’ll have a reveal where he’s all “oh I knew the whole time but you’re so insignificant that I just don’t care cause you can’t stop me”). And Raine knows Belos plans to kill everyone, so they’re not going to fall for the classic “I’ll let you two go if you help me” bit.

    So where does that leave us? I honestly don’t know. I have enough faith in this show’s writing to assume they won’t throw away something as emotionally backstabbing as a traitor in the rebellion away after hinting at it, but I can’t think of anyone who has a reason to do that given what we know about them. Maybe some later revelation will show how someone was secretly getting blackmailed, or how Raine wasn’t as good at fixing the brainwash juice as they thought, but I don’t think that would make sense for the show. Am I just reading to much into Kikimora’s gloating and she just had scouts following all of the coven heads leading up to the DoU? I don’t know.

    #toh spoilers#toh speculation #toh clouds on the horizon #the owl house #toh#toh theory#toh catts #toh emperors coven #toh darius #toh day of unity #toh belos#toh hunter #toh hunter clawthorn noceda #toh golden guard #toh luz #toh luz noceda clawthorn #toh amity#toh willow#toh gus#toh king #toh king clawthorne #toh hooty#toh eda#toh lilith#toh batts#toh eberwolf#toh steve#toh raine#toh matholomule
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  • boiling-files
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    People talking about how there’s a traitor and like:

    We don’t know there’s even a traitor, it could’ve been The Collector listening in through King and providing intel to Belos because they thought giving Belos information would make it less likely that Belos would betray him.

    It’s also shown multiple times Belos has coven scouts and eyes everywhere in The Boiling Isles, whether it’s Kiki or The Collector.

    He could’ve been scrying on everyone as well. Hell, The Coven sigils could function as monitoring devices as well as immobilizing devices! We do not know!

    #.txt #speculation#toh spoilers #clouds on the horizon #The collector#emperor belos #the day of unity #Coven sigils
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  • plotek-the-first
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    The thought just came to mind but… Eda hasn’t used up her favour with the Bat Queen yet, has she? So perhaps that will come into play in the season two finale or even in season three.

    We also still have some unanswered questions about the Bat Queen that possibly link with The Titan, but it’s hard to say it we’ll get any concrete answers on that because of Disney cutting the show short. However, with the implications that the Bat Queen may have been The Titan’s Palisman, I think it possibly connects with King’s storyline! So, at some point I’m guessing we’ll see the Bat Queen again, whether that be now or after the hiatus.

    #the owl house #toh#toh speculation#toh theory #the bat queen #king clawthorne
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  • icedmochasi
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    The Collector, after being released: I wonder where the runway Grimwalker is. He would make such a nice toy, a doll for me to play with :)

    Literally everyone, getting in front of Hunter and making sure he is out of sight: THE HELL DID YOU JUST SAY! TRY IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! WE WILL STOP YOU!

    Everyone: Between this and helping with mass murder, no wonder they locked your ass up the way they did.

    #Toh#Toh spoilers#Speculation #The owl house #The owl house spoilers #toh the collector #The collector toh #Toh hunter#Hunter toh
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  • icedmochasi
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    If we get a scene of Raine kicking "Steve's" ass next week because they've figured out Steve is not really Steve, I would not be surprised.

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  • icedmochasi
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago


    The other coven heads, eating this up:👀🌝🌚👁👄👁🌜🌛

    The other Coven Heads (besides Raine and Eberwolf), having no clue why the words “Captured” and “Golden Guard” in the same sentence made Darius go apeshit and kick Kikimora’s ass:

    #toh#toh spoilers #the owl house spoilers #the owl house #speculation but still tagging #dadrius#toh darius#darius toh#toh hunter#hunter toh
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  • icedmochasi
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    If the theory about Adrian acting as a CATTs member since one of them may already captured proves to be true, between that and what happened at Hexside, then I hope Darius makes him wish he’s never been born when the truth is out.  

    Let Darius show Adrian the power of a true Coven Head. 

    #toh#toh spoilers #the owl house #the owl house spoilers #toh darius#darius toh#adrian graye #idk tagging just in case #speculation
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  • fireheartwraith
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    What happens after the season finale?

    Disclaimer: this is all my crack theory, I don't follow any news sites or pages on TOH to avoid spoilers, so I barely know how season 3 is going to work. This isn't a comprehensive take or anything like that, I just think it would be neat if this is how things worked out

    Let's be real, Belos will succeed, at least in part. The season is almost over and there still needs a plot for the specials, so my guess is that the CATs sabotage works and the Collector decides to mess with the portal because the Emperor is a little shit, so a few key characters get stuck in the mortal world.

    Because I like to suffer, I want the gang to be split up and Hunter to be one of the people stuck in the mortal realm. He ends up finding Camilia who obviously immediately adopts Hunter, so he gets to be a real teen with a caring parental figure for the first time basically ever, and this time he doesn't need to hide from the emperor coven or feel lesser because he can't do magic. And, since he now knows Belos' true identity, he can research him and figure out who he's a clone of. Angst ensues when he inevitabily tries to act like him because he thinks that's what he's supposed to do, but they help him out.

    I also think Luz should get stuck in the mortal realm. She has the very real oportunity to simply forget the whole thing ever happened and live a normal life, and her mom might even encourage that in a misguided attempt to protect her forteen year old daughter from the genocidal maniac that wants her dead, but she comes around once she sees how miserable Luz is being stuck here without being able to help her friends. Also Vee needs food. So the four of them start a researching journey trying to figure out how the Wittebanes got to the Demon Realm in the first place and recreate that.

    Back in the Boiling Isles, total chaos. Even though the spell failed, it worked for long enough for everyone to realize what the Day of Unity (and Belos) are really about, so now it's time for Revolution!!! Some fanatics or crazies like Odalia remain on Belos' side, so it's open war in the streets and everyone is scared.

    In the Owl House, everyone majorly freaking out: not only they are in the midst of a civil war trying to take care of very eager children, they managed to lose two of them. It's guilt fest with the Clawthorne sisters, the Hexside friends are super worried, but the real focus here is on King. In his mind, his worst fear came true, he lost Luz to the Human Realm. People try to cheer him up by saying that Luz didn't abandon him, she just got sucked into an interdimensional portal with no way back! Needless to say it doesn't work. Little guy is really in the dumps.

    Until he gets a very special visit in his dreams: during the showdown, the Collector realized that King is a Titan and promises to show him a way to get Luz back as long as they get something in return. What King doesn't know is that, as a Titan, he can make interdimensional portals on his own, so he just sold his (very powerful) soul to an immortal interdimensional being that is chaotic neutral only on good days. Fingers crossed that the power of friendship and found family wins them over and dissuades them from causing chaos on the multiverse just because they're bored lol

    #the owl house #the owl house season 2 #toh#toh theory #the owl house theory #the owl house season 3 #toh s3 #toh s3 speculation #luz noceda#toh luz#toh king#king clawthorne#toh hunter#emperor belos#toh belos#phillip wittebane #the boiling isles #the demon realm #the collector #toh the collector
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  • tempoaryblogformightyjensblog
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    So like I do not think Kikimora knows about the day of Unity, I think she either just did not hear Alador and Odalia’s conversation or was not paying attention out of annoyance, as she does not really address any of what they say and unlike Odalia she never explains WHY she would be on board with Belos Genocide, and I feel it makes little sense for him to tell her this sense unlike Odalia she does not seem to have a major role in actually helping bring it out. And she did seem to love her family, its just she loved her ambitions more, so she would not agree to it unless she was getting something big, which does not seem to be the case, she also remarks she might be the next Golden guard, implying she still thinks the Emperor’s coven will be around. 

    BUUUT just to play around, and theorize if she Does know Hypothetically, then maybe Belos is actually being Truthful about sparing people like Odalia for some reason, Kikimora’s promotion was ‘Getting to live’ which at the time just seemed to mean she would not be killed by Belos, but if this is the truth it could mean Belos was actually picking her to be one of the ‘Chosen’ survivors for whatever reason.  I am unsure why Belos would be doing this, but to me it makes the most sense in a ‘Kikimora Knows’ scenario 

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  • has-brain-rot
    23.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    do we know what the collector is collecting?? judging by their loneliness it’s probably not friends but

    I thought that they were collecting species? not in terms of capturing them but collecting their souls. like mass extinction. What better way to never share than to completely destroy the knowledge of whatever you collected?

    #the owl house #toh the collector #toh speculation#the collector#toh
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  • alpacasandwine
    22.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    I'd love to know what the crew said when they planned this scene...

    "We need to have a rat that looks like Alador, pronto!"

    "Is the rat Alador transformed?"


    "Ok... Is the rat his palisman?..."

    "No, why would someone carve a rat that looks like himself?"

    "I don't get it, what is the purpose of having a Rat that looks like Alador?"


    #the owl house #toh #the owl house spoilers #the owl house theory #the owl lady #toh palismen#alador blight#toh alador#danna terrance #disney owl house #meme#shitpost #toh season 2 #toh speculation#luz noceda#toh darius
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  • therivergirl
    22.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    Just realized something.

    If Graye was sent with a bunch of EC scouts to Hexide, does that mean that other coven heads or maybe high-ranking EC officials have been sent to brand the students in other schools?

    Are Glandus students and St. Epiderm's students now all carrying sigils? Have some of the students from those schools rebelled? Are literally all the kids aside from those that go to Hexide now being sent to their deaths?

    And, while we're at it, how did the parents of Hexide students react when they learned that their children, led by their freakin' principal, had a rebellion against EC? Did they believe their kids when they got home with the news? Do they think that Bump went crazy and decided to disregard it? Were they suspicious and then went, "Well, I guess if the teachers were fine with it, it's ok..."? Are there now groups of mums and dads planning on causing chaos because nobody will brand their kid before it's time? Or are they berating their kids because they refused the borderline sacred sigils?

    I'll assume it's a mix of all, but dang. Imagine your kid coming home from school and being like, "So, we fought the government officials today and the principal was totally in on it and, well, in a few days we're totally all going to die!"

    We know how the Blights reacted and, since Willow and Gus are helping we might assume that the Parks and Perry Porter are at least somewhat on the rebel's side and trusting their kids (unless both Willow and Gus snuck out).

    #the owl house #toh #save the owl house #random thoughts#labirynth runners#toh theory#speculation #aaaah this show!
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  • bestfriend-temporary
    22.05.2022 - 1 day ago

    (spoilers for clouds on the horizon and other toh episodes)

    ok so i have a theory about the possible spy in the catts. first, i think its just as likely that kikimora was simply trying to instill doubt in the rebellion as there is to actually be a spy in the first place, but if she wasn’t, well… that’s what this theory is about.

    i don’t believe that the spy is any one of the catts, at least not technically. i just don’t feel like it would fit any of their characterizations, especially not some of the ones that a large part of the fandom has been suspecting.

    however, i do think that it’s possible that one of the rebellion members has been replaced by a fake. illusions can disguise voices (for example in labyrinth runners with the illusions of willlow and adrian), although there would likely have to be somebody behind the illusion. that disguising stone thing (i forget what exactly it’s called) was just introduced, and basilisks can also change their voices along with their disguises as shown by vee’s luz disguise in yesterday’s lie. it could also possibly be a grimwalker i suppose, but i don’t think belos would go through the trouble of making another one just for this when there are easier options available.

    if this theory is correct, that leaves the questions of who has been replaced, and what happened to them? well, we don’t have really any strong proof yet, but i have a couple ideas of who it could be. as for the second question i have no clue.

    one possible person is raine, because as many members of the fandom have noticed, they were acting a bit off this episode. of course, this could just be them being worried, considering the cats plan to stop the day of unity. we heard them speak this episode, so if it is them it’s unlikely to be the disguise stone thing as it doesn’t change your voice, but other options are possible.

    another is eberwolf. while i don’t think its as likely to be them, considering they haven’t really shown any odd behaviors, it’s worthy to note that they don’t speak, which would allow the disguise stone to work (still don’t remember what it was called)

    lastly, i think it could also be steve. this episode he wasn’t really acting like himself at all, at least by what i’ve observed, coming off as a lot more serious than what he usually is. again, the odd behavior could also because of something like being nervous about what’s about to happen. something else is that, while i didn’t notice this on my first time viewing the episode, another tumblr user pointed out that the moles on his cheeks were in the wrong place. this could also be explained away as an animation error, but knowing the owl house it could be intentional. of course, the fact that he speaks denies the possibility of the disguising stone being involved

    im not saying anything for sure here, there are other possibilities like the scrying potion lilith created (even before this episode i thought it was odd that it hadn’t been brought up again after it’s creation since it seemed like it would be important), and maybe kikimora wasn’t even trying to imply that one of the cats is a traitor, but i’ve been thinking about this and wanted to share my theory. i’d love to hear your thoughts :)

    #toh #the owl house #toh spoilers #clouds on the horizon #raine whispers#toh eberwolf#toh steve#toh theory#toh speculation#toh catts#willow park #illusion coven head #adrian graye#graye vernworth #not sure which tag to use for him
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